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While mainstream music drowns in digital perfection and curated personas, heavy metal endures as an unstoppable juggernaut of raw power.
Yet even within this defiant genre, few artists dare to transcend its boundaries.
At this confluence of artistry and audacity, a true polymath has charted an extraordinary course—from commanding stadium crowds to piloting an aircraft into war zones.
My guest today is Bruce Dickinson, the iconic frontman of Iron Maiden and a modern-day Renaissance man who has sold over 130 million albums while simultaneously pursuing careers as a commercial airline pilot, Olympic-caliber fencer, and humanitarian. Joined by acclaimed filmmaker, close collaborator, and mutual friend Sacha Gervasi, we explore how authentic curiosity meets the unwavering dedication to redefining what’s possible.
From shrinking stadiums to intimate clubs through focused connection, to flying Ed Force One across continents and piloting rescue missions in war zones on behalf of the British military, he’s challenged assumptions about human capability. His 1994 concert in besieged Sarajevo, performing while the city was under heavy bombardment, exemplifies his commitment to blazing trails between art and service.
“If you really want to annoy me, ask me when I’m going to retire from rock n’ roll.”
– BRUCE DICKINSON
Today, we examine how embracing uncertainty and following genuine curiosity transforms us. From his theory of ambidextrous cognition to humanitarian aviation missions, Bruce reveals how genuine expression builds resilience and purpose. We discuss how his myriad interests inform and enhance each other—vital elements of his legendary journey.
Our conversation spans the intersection of art and aviation, the ethics of risk-taking in conflict zones, and Bruce’s evolution from bullied schoolboy to global rock icon.
His story underscores the equilibrium involving creative expression and technical excellence, touching on critical aspects such as mitigating fear, and cultivating connection.
Exclusive Iron Maiden Giveaway
In honor of Bruce’s appearance on the show, we’re giving away two signed Iron Maiden items to two lucky winners.
- One entrant will win a signed Piece of Mind comic book, celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Iron Maiden album “Piece of Mind.”
- Another entrant will win a signed “The Trooper” statue from Sideshow collectibles.
To enter, simply sign up for Rich’s newsletter at richroll.com/subscribe and await further instructions. See our official rules for more details at richroll.com/official-rules.
For those who prefer a visual experience, the conversation is available on YouTube. As always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Whether you’re seeking inspiration to push beyond perceived limits or curious about the impressive capacities of the human spirit when unleashed, this conversation is a must-listen.
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- Connect With Bruce: Instagram | YouTube
- The Mandrake Project: About
- Book: What Does This Button Do? (Memoir)
- Documentary: Scream for Sarajevo
- Documentary: Iron Maiden: Flight 666
- Wiki: Bruce Dickinson
- Ryan Holiday: Everything I Learned From Iron Maiden About Life
- Rolling Stone: Iron Maiden Singer/Pilot Rescues Stranded Tourists
- YouTube: Iron Maiden – Can I Play With Madness (Official Video)
- YouTube: Iron Maiden – Run To The Hills (Official Video)
- Exclusive Iron Maiden Giveaway: In honor of Bruce’s appearance on the show, we’re giving away two signed Iron Maiden items to two lucky winners. One entrant will win a signed Piece of Mind comic book, celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Iron Maiden album “Piece of Mind.” Another entrant will win a signed “The Trooper” statue from Sideshow collectibles. To enter, simply sign up for Rich’s newsletter at richroll.com/subscribe and await further instructions. See our official rules for more details at richroll.com/official-rules.
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