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Are you afraid of uncertainty?
Do you often find yourself trying to escape discomfort, pain, and the consistent effort required for personal evolution? Most of us have created complex systems—from our jobs to our relationships—all aimed at giving us a false sense of control in a fundamentally uncontrollable world.
But what if this avoidance is precisely what’s keeping us small? What if the very challenges we run from—these unavoidable domains of existence—are actually God (or higher forces) knocking, inviting us to collaborate and reclaim our dormant creative power?
My guests today are Phil Stutz and Elise Loehnen. Phil is the iconic psychiatrist featured in Jonah Hill’s Netflix documentary “Stutz,” whose revolutionary approach to transformation has made him one of Hollywood’s most sought-after therapists. Elise is a writer and former Chief Content Officer at Goop whose intellectual rigor has helped countless people navigate life’s challenging terrain. Together, they’ve produced their paradigm-shifting new book “True & False Magic.” It offers practical tools for embracing life’s unavoidable domains while creating something meaningful out of nothing.
“The things that you will do anything to avoid are the exact things you need to make progress.”
– PHIL STUTZ
Today, we discuss:
- The Destructive Force of “Part X”
- Universe One vs. Universe Two Thinking
- Embracing Life’s Three Unavoidable Domains
- The Power of Cosmic Rage
- Creating Something From Nothing
For those who prefer a visual experience, the conversation is available on YouTube. As always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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- Connect with Phil Stutz: Website | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook
- Book: The Tools: 5 Tools to Help You Find Courage, Creativity, and Willpower–and Inspire You to Live Life in Forward Motion
- Book: Lessons for Living: What Only Adversity Can Teach You
- Book: Coming Alive: 4 Tools to Defeat Your Inner Enemy, Ignite Creative Expression & Unleash Your Soul’s Potential
- Netflix: Stutz
- The New York Times: ‘Stutz’ Review: An Actor’s Tribute to a Therapist
- Los Angeles Times: Commentary: A critic does therapy with Phil Stutz, go-to shrink for Jonah Hill and other stars
- The Times: Meet the A-list shrink (because Oscar winners get depressed too)
- Esquire: Anyone With a Brain Should See Stutz Right Now
- Forbes: Stutz: Actionable Tools For Everyone To Think And Feel Better
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