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How do we break free when competence becomes quicksand?
Our expertise—meant to elevate us—often becomes the very thing that keeps us stuck.
My guest today is Steve Magness, a world-renowned performance expert and author whose own journey from 4:01 miler and elite runner to transformative coach embodies the very evolution he advocates. Through the aperture of his experience as a whistleblower in professional athletics, Steve has dedicated himself to understanding how we can move beyond merely surviving to genuinely thriving. His latest book, “Win the Inside Game,” challenges our fundamental assumptions about success and achievement, offering a paradigm-shifting framework for sustainable excellence.
“Stress isn’t bad, anxiety isn’t bad, it’s there for a purpose: to alert us to do something about it.”
– STEVE MAGNESS
Today, we discuss:
- Why Curiosity Gets Sacrificed for Competence
- How Social Media Hijacks Our Basic Needs
- The Quest vs. Performance Mindset
- Breaking Free from Group Identity Fusion
- Balancing Exploration with Excellence
For those who prefer a visual experience, the conversation is available on YouTube. As always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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- Connect with Steve: Website | Facebook | Twitter
- Book: Do Hard Things
- Book: Peak Performance
- Book: The Practice of Groundedness
- The New York Times: ‘This Doesn’t Sound Legal’: Inside Nike’s Oregon Project
- The New York Times: For Salazar Whistle-Blowers, a Long Wait for a Satisfying Outcome
- Sports Illustrated: Mary Cain, Nike Oregon Project runners detail toxic culture under Alberto Salazar
- BBC: Alberto Salazar: The inside story of Nike Oregon Project founder’s downfall
- The Science Of Running: Blog
- Running: The 5 rules of training for runners
- Wired: The Secret to Running a Faster Marathon? Slow Down
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