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Touch Grass: Andrew Yang Returns To Talk Phone Addiction, AI’s Cognitive Toll, & The Fight For Your Attention

By June 8, 2026No Comments
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Episode #993

ANDREW YANG

PHONE ADDICTION, AI'S COGNITIVE TOLL, & THE FIGHT FOR YOUR ATTENTION

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How do you take your life back from the rectangle in your pocket?

It’s the doomscroll that consumed your evening. The phone-in-hand at every meal you swore you wouldn’t bring it to. We all feel the pull, but we mostly don’t want to talk about it.

Andrew Yang has been thinking about it for years, and quietly evolving a way out.

The last time Andrew was on (episode 640), we talked about democracy. This time, it’s our phones. He’s been building Noble Mobile, a cell carrier that rewards you for using your phone less. Which sounds insane until you hear him explain it.

This isn’t really a conversation about phones. It’s a conversation about agency.

It’s about the design decisions engineered to take what’s left of your attention. About what we’re doing to our kids, whose brains were formed by these things rather than interrupted by them. And about why none of us, no matter how disciplined, are going to willpower our way out of this.

Specifics include:

  • Stone Age brains, godlike technology
  • The cognitive cost of leaning on AI
  • The trillion-dollar attention economy
  • Why willpower won’t save you
  • Phone addiction through the lens of recovery
  • Parenting Gen Z and Gen Alpha
  • Noble Mobile and flipping the incentive
  • Phone-free events and the power of being the only one without it
  • The one thing you can do tonight

For those who prefer a visual experience, the conversation is available on YouTube. As always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Peace + Plants,

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